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Old 10-08-2008, 03:03 AM
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Scary hand...thoughts?

What do you put him on, and what do you do? That hand nearly confused the hell out of me.


PokerStars Game #21015440602: Hold'em No Limit ($2/$4) - 2008/10/07 21:54:58 ET
Table 'Tyumenia' 9-max Seat #5 is the button
Seat 1: ackbleh ($518.10 in chips)
Seat 2: Iberico ($541.90 in chips)
Seat 3: ih8money ($145 in chips)
Seat 4: Weak Tite ($474.20 in chips)
Seat 5: Borgouise ($697 in chips)
Seat 6: thegame2006 ($464.65 in chips)
Seat 7: omnishakira ($895.75 in chips)
Seat 8: reDZill4 ($406 in chips)
Seat 9: AmPHisbaenA ($409.10 in chips)
thegame2006: posts small blind $2
omnishakira: posts big blind $4
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to Borgouise [As Ad]
reDZill4: folds
AmPHisbaenA: folds
ackbleh: folds
Iberico: folds
ih8money: folds
Weak Tite: folds
Borgouise: calls $4
thegame2006: raises $16 to $20
omnishakira: folds
Borgouise: raises $44 to $64
thegame2006: calls $44
*** FLOP *** [4h 2c 5s]
thegame2006: checks
Borgouise: checks
*** TURN *** [4h 2c 5s] [9h]
thegame2006: bets $74
Borgouise: calls $74
*** RIVER *** [4h 2c 5s 9h] [Jd]
thegame2006: bets $177
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Old 10-08-2008, 04:40 AM
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That be sick if he had the JJ
cant make any conclusion on what he has, I have no info about the player

prob grit my teeth and call, hope he has Kings
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Old 10-08-2008, 06:31 AM
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My guess......He was tryin to buy the pot with the preflop raise, but you re-raised, and but put you on a big ace.....called.....got lucky ....flopped a set .....OR

like Assistanc3 says, big pair KK, QQ. I don't know how you would get away from this hand. I curious to see what you did and the result of the hand.
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Old 10-08-2008, 05:30 PM
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Strange line you play. Limping with AA on the button? You were lucky the sb decided to give you some action.
Also, the check behind on the flop is questionable imo, you are asking for it to get outdrawn.
When you called turn, you already decided to call river so I guess you called. Wont be surprised if villain either had a small set, or J9.
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Old 10-08-2008, 05:44 PM
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Dunbar makes a very good point, limping here is generally a bad idea. However, in making this point, she also shows how hard analyzing this hand is without player knowledge. Thegame had been on my left for a good 1.5 hours or so, and loved putting pressure on me when he smelled weakness (as I was loving small, suited connectors, and had showed a couple on limps).

Another hand that made this play for me: I watched him get allin preflop with AKo. In my eyes, this may be one of the worst plays in cash game play. Unless you are short stacked (which I dont believe in short stacked cash gaming) there is no reason to get allin pf with AK (barring, of course, a SICK read). He had raised, other player popped it, he made it about $100, and other player pushed for $400. He called. So, I knew he was willing to play mediocre hands very strongly.

When he called for $44 preflop, I had him on 3 hands: AK, JJ, QQ. I think a player like this pushes with KK, but still gets off of TT, and any weaker ace. The check on the flop is giving him the chance to smell weakness, and lead out on the turn, if his cards missed. The bet of more than 1/2 the pot for that player made me pretty confident that he did not have an overpair (I didn't rate his skills that highly). The river bet of nearly the pot sealed the deal. I dont see him betting the pot with the nuts (nobody has a straight here, never considered it).

So, I flat called, as he can only call my raise if he has me beat (which was my same theory on the turn, and hes not playing A9 or AJ here, never entered my mind). He flips over KQ...and my respect for him as a player goes through the floor.
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