Poker Stars (Auger Stars)

[imported_JamieD]

I don't know if anyone has played at poker stars but it is a nice site with all the typical fish and know it alls, all in the same spot. I play a tight game so i can try to limit my mistakes. However, how many of you can lay down kk? Not many, but if you play poker stars you might want to start thinking about it. No word of a lie, once a day I get kk and someone has aa. It never fails. I was in a 55 dollar sng and got a royal flush, typically never got much out of it but nonetheless it paid me. The very next hand I have kk, the guy beside me has kk, the guy beside him has qq, and the guy beside him had aa. Now I dont like to be a consipracy theorist but what the hell was that? The dumb part is your probobly thinking well the aces made out like a bandit, that is true until the flop came over, q q a and that was it for all of us but the guy with the lowest hand. This is right after I achieve my silver status V.I.P! Wow poker stars, what special treatment you gave me! I would much rather be a scmoe grinding at pots non stop than get setup cards from the site non-stop after achieving my silver status. So fellow poker players beware, some sites arent just happy with the rake they get, they want it faster and more frequent. Could this be a software issue? Well lets see if this gets any replies?????????

Pokerstars is an industry leader and widely considered to have one of the best RNGs in the business

I think you are experiencing a run of bad luck

It happens to us all

[imported_JamieD]

You know, i knew i would get a reply! You know what else I knew? There would be a defense on behalf of poker stars being an industry leader. So what actually does that mean? I would like to know as well. Just because there are people who are considered to be honest (George Bush) does it mean that he is? I find it comical that anyone in the world that poker software cant be compromised! Why can't it? It is desighned to work so, why cant someone manipulate what is actually happening on the table? I know it is a consipracy theory and you you play more hands you get more bad beats. Well people there are odds in poker. Things that happen to me cant be explained by odds because it defys the odds! Please, if dont give me an excuse like that. If there totally leugit and an industry leader why are they in the Carribean or wherever else, not based in Canada or the U.S? Is it because they don't have to comply with all the regulations here? I know im crying conspiracy but until someone has something concrete, your not changing my mind!!!!!!!

what, u come in here looking for a fight? I have better things to do than argue with someone who has not a clue what they are saying, but before I ignore you maybe you had better check your facts

You say, and I quote: "Please, if dont give me an excuse like that. If there totally leugit and an industry leader why are they in the Carribean or wherever else, not based in Canada or the U.S?"

Pokerstars SERVERS ARE BASED IN CANADA NOT THE CARIBBEAN AS YOU CLAIM

So, after such a glaring error on your part, it is really to take anything else you say seriously.

Any other falsehoods you want to share with us?








Kahnawake Gaming Commission
Pokerstars holds its gaming license with the Kahnawake Gaming Commission.

The Kahnawake Gaming Commission was established in June 1996 pursuant to the provisions of the Kahnawake Gaming Law, MCR No. 26 / 1996-97.

The Commission is empowered to regulate and control gaming and gaming related activities conducted within and from the Mohawk Territory of Kahnawake in accordance with the highest principles of honesty and integrity.

Kahnawake is located 10 kilometers south of Montreal, on the banks of the St. Lawrence River. The word "Kahnawake" means "on the rapids," which perfectly describes the Territory's eastern reaches.

Kahnawake is one of seven communities, which comprise the Mohawk Nation. In turn, the Mohawks (or Kanienkehaka - the People of the Flint) are part of the larger Iroquois Confederacy. Kahnawake is home to approximately 8,000 residents.

Kahnawake gaming regulations are designed to ensure that all interactive gaming and gaming related activities conducted within or from the Mohawk Territory of Kahnawake satisfy three basic principles:

1. That only suitable persons and entities are permitted to operate within Kahnawake;
2. That the games offered are fair to the player; and
3. That winners are paid.

Determining the "suitability" of persons and entities is a process that requires an applicant to provide extensive information to the Commission concerning the business entity that will operate the gaming venture as well as each of the principals associated with the entity. The 'know your client' rule is strictly enforced. The information provided is investigated for accuracy and completeness by an independent agency contracted by the Commission, National Fraud Center. Based on the reports received from National Fraud, the Commission makes a decision as to the applicant's suitability.

The Commission has adopted technical standards that are applied to ensure that the games offered by a permit holder are fair to players. An applicant's systems are subjected to a risk analysis prior to implementation and an audit plan is established to ensure systems comply with the Commission's requirements. Operational monitoring and audits are conducted on a monthly basis to ensure continuing compliance.

For more information, visit the Kahnawake Gaming Commission page.

[imported_JamieD]

NO i'm not looking for a fight but if you want to come out swinging>...I will too. I want to check my facts? You might want to check yours because if your trying to tell me Poker Stars is based in Canada your a complete moron. Nothing in the b.s that you typed out sayd as a matter of fact that poker s tars is based in Canada. Secondly, your using a gaming copany that is native to my people. IF Poker Stars had anyhting to do with them, i would know. So take your b.s and shove it in your ...
You try and act smart at least do your research ya punk!!! I am governing member of the Indian Society of Canada and don't try speed talking me into believing whatever the b.s that flows out of your yapper. Just because there licensed in Canada, does not mean they are based in Canada. That is only sp that they are legal in Canada to process money orders and have access to an outlet for Canadian money. Everything that you tpyed in that last post has absolutely nothing to do with poker stars. If you think Poker Stars is based anywhere in Canada your cpmletely wrong and actually have no idea. Get a life pal, your the one with no clue, actually your a laughing stock. I can tell you every name of poker websites on Indian Lands, and there is not 1 called poker stars. Just because it is licensed there does not mean they're servers are located there smarty! Your a Joke!!!!!

[1derdawgg]

As one who has been on the bad end of losing to the long odds hands that seem to defy logic I can clearly understand your frustration.

I also understand the frustration of being not completely convinced that online poker is just like the real thing bringing it up and having someone roll back in defense of it as if they were a partner in the company.

I don't think that LDJ had that intention and it's unlikely that he will post again in this thread.

There is only one site I have played at where I have failed to take out more than I put into it. I am no longer allowed to play there voluntarily but quit playing there voluntarily 8 months ago. They threw me a few teaser packages from time to time and I'd go get what i could with it and cash it out.

It does seem to boggle the mind sometimes that there OFTEN at times seems to be more than 3 people in a hand with a premium hand.

I am not going to argue for either side of the issue. I can't. I am not completely convinced of it. I only play league games and tourneys online.

I took all of my cash game action back to where I have more control of it and play it live. I'm sorry but from someone that plays thousands of hands online and hundreds and hundreds live I don't see the same scenarios between the two as similar as some seem to be convinced. So please allow me the chance to see your point and consider that there is the possibility of some validity to your suspicion.

What I disagree with here is we don't need to talk to each other that way. We all get upset. I'm so down right now I can't buy into a freeroll. I take beats game after game after game. I take more online than I do live. I play them so I know I do. Whether or not we have all of our facts straight or whatever, we have a forum where we discuss like adults and work out our concerns or issues. Calling each other names or contesting each others character is counter productive and gets us nowhere. I think you both owe each other an apology just out of respect to your fellow human being. If I have overstepped my ground trying to play peacemaker, then I apologize. I don't intend to argue with anyone over any issue.

[imported_JamieD]

cdubya44 I coudnt agree with you more. But in my defense LDJ came to my post and started attacking me saying you wanna come in here and start a fight? What the hell is that. If there was anyone starting anything it was him and his who the f... do you think you are attitude. I live on the Mohawk Reserve so the last thing i need to hear from him is his crap abot where a site is located. Furthermore he was the one that got right ignorant about it like he was a major shareholder of poker stars. However I did read a thread about full tilt with him involved in a conversation whineing about having to give up his account because he was employed by them by sime means. BUDDY, why are you playing at those sites at all if your affilliated in any way? A question I will never get an answeer out of because he belongs to nothing. I am not the type of person to back down from any confrontation especiallly when theres a donkey that wants to computer shout at ya. Like any other punk with little man syndrome. I had every right to defend myself as he came forth with arms flailing. I wont apologize to an uneducated fool that thinks he has a clue but I will apologize to the suited pockets forum and the people in it for losing my temper and lowering my class level down to LDJ's level.

Sincerely JamieD

Your posts were antagonistic from the start.

First you challenged the members to reply to your post.

Then when I replied you jumped in with an "I knew I would get somebody defending Pokerstars" which showed to me that you were trying to set someone up so you could go on an anti- Pokerstars rant.

But, anyways, how little you know.

Pokerstars servers ARE based in Canada. BTW I am not typing the stuff in italics it is all C&P from the gaming commission page.

That only suitable persons and entities are permitted to operate within Kahnawake;

The Commission is empowered to regulate and control gaming and gaming related activities conducted within and from the Mohawk Territory of Kahnawake in accordance with the highest principles of honesty and integrity.

As for apologizing, all I did was state that Jamie made a post looking for a fight. Perhaps I replied a little snarkily... but you can see from his follwoing posts that I was right. He immediately went into a name calling tirade which he then tries to blame on me, which only goes to show that he can't own up to his own crap.

I guess the only thing I am truly sorry for is that I am validating his abrasive posts by replying to them, but I hate to see such total misinformation being posted.

If you notice I am not even arguing whether or not online and real life poker are the same game... what I am arguing is that you cant say Pokerstars employs unfair businesses practices and use the fact that they are based in the caribbean is proof because their servers are not based in the caribbean... also although I dont know this for a fact, I am pretty sure that no Pokerstars payments are handled at kahnawake... I know a thing or two about online poker companies and the cashier end is not generally handled where the servers are based.

From the Pokerstars site: Credit card transactions are processed through our E-Cash subsidiary, Rational Entertainment Enterprises Ltd, Douglas Bay Complex, King Edward Road, IM3 IDZ Onchan, Isle of Man and Openshore Trading Limited, 6 Loanni Stylianou St, 2nd floor, Nicosia, Cyprus.

And, Jamie, just now I did a quick google search and everytime I saw a reference to where Pokerstars servers are located they were mentioned as being located in Quebec, Canada. Perhaps you better take a look into this council you are on... they seem to be keeping you out of the information loop.

From wikkipedia: The Kahnawake Gaming Commission offers gambling licenses to Internet-based poker, casino, and sportsbook sites and has established Kahnawake as a substantial player in that business. Many sites are hosted and managed by a local data center called MIT or (Mohawk Internet Technologies) located within the territory. MIT is the closest and fastest source for "legally hosted" gambling websites for their North American players.

From the Pokerstars site: Pokerstars is a registered legal business located in San José, Costa Rica. We abide by the laws and regulations where we do business. This is where you may get the idea that PS is based in the caribbean but PS headquarterz is based in costa rica for tax purposes. In costa rica no money earned on foregin soil is taxable... however as soon as Pokerstars bases its servers in costa rica they are earning money on costa rican soil and their profits are taxable and for that reason PS does not operate servers in ocsta rica.

Anyways, I now return you to Jamie's name-calling tirade.

I do apologize for provoking someone who was obviously looking for a fight.

I promise I wont reply to anything Jamie says in this thread in the future as I dont think I have anything else to add, just take what he says with a grain of salt and do some research on your own.

Upon thinking about it, I do owe an apology to the other SP members because I did push the buttons of someone I knew would blow up so I am at least partially to blame for the name-calling mess from Jamie above.

Sorry.

I wont push his buttons anymore.

[imported_JamieD]

As Ldg constantly keeps coming back waiting for fiery response from me me he's not going to get one. He is wrong, Canada is not home of Poker Stars servers. If he looks in the fine print poker stars obviously has access to there servers via Canadian OUTLET, for marketing and whatever other reasons OTHER than being BASED in Canada. When yo read something LDJ, READ IT ALL. Just not what you want too!!!!