advice plox...i played this whole wrong

[Snider]

1/2NL hand QQ in black in MP somewhere, two limpers, i raise to 12, button calls (wearing a The Doc-poker Joe tshirt, havent got a lot of respect for his game), blinds and limpers fold.

pot 31

flop 46T 3 diamonds
I bet out 25, the doc bitches and whines about a sick board and calls
pot 81 (Doc has about 110 left, iv got im covered)
turn is a blank, im thinking about what to do for 2 minutes straight, till I made this hilariously dumb play...
I bet out 45 and he goes allin for the 110, giving me sickloads of odds to call.
I dont know what my plan was when betting here (frozen bailys+jack&coke makes me stop planning my hands).
If i wanted value from a draw or AT or whatever iv probably shoulda shoved it in on the turn, now i made a laughing fold for like 65 in a 220pot the fact that he was still in on the turn makes me think i should even have c-folded the turn.
pretty arsefucked...

lesson to be learned is not to drink anymore while playing I guess, but tell me, how would you have played this hand. (and why)

[Dunbar]

Ship it preflop.

[SharBear613]

My first question was it PokerJoe playing or DrCheckRaise - two different styles of play between those two. I have only see those two play - no one else that was representing for them.

Once he called pre-flop and after seeing that flop I would have thrown a feeler bet out there to see what he would do. He could have easily had a high pair as well. He certainly didn't put you on two diamonds (at least I wouldn't think so) after the flop, so chances are he was playing his big pair.

Once he called the feeler bet you have to think of the odds of him having two diamonds. He could have AKs but that would be at best and pretty slim possibility. I would think if that was the case, he might has slow played you by not raising.

After the turn I would have checked to see what he did and how much he bet. This may give me an idea of what you may have. Once you bet the 45 there was no way I would fold for just another 65 with a pot that size.

My prediction is that he had K's or A's. If so, you saved yourself 65.

This is why I don't drink and play poker. The two just do not mesh well for me. lol

[Snider]

Originally Posted by SharBear613

My first question was it PokerJoe playing or DrCheckRaise - two different styles of play between those two. I have only see those two play - no one else that was representing for them.

Once he called pre-flop and after seeing that flop I would have thrown a feeler bet out there to see what he would do. He could have easily had a high pair as well. He certainly didn't put you on two diamonds (at least I wouldn't think so) after the flop, so chances are he was playing his big pair.

Once he called the feeler bet you have to think of the odds of him having two diamonds. He could have AKs but that would be at best and pretty slim possibility. I would think if that was the case, he might has slow played you by not raising.

After the turn I would have checked to see what he did and how much he bet. This may give me an idea of what you may have. Once you bet the 45 there was no way I would fold for just another 65 with a pot that size.

My prediction is that he had K's or A's. If so, you saved yourself 65.

This is why I don't drink and play poker. The two just do not mesh well for me. lol

whyd u make a feeler bet, its a ten high 3diamonds flop, i dont really wanna give a 'here draw at everything you want'-bet.

and i hope you were just joking about the aces and kings part on his hand :)
those hands arent really in his range at all imo.
after the flop the range should be narrowed to like 44-66-TT, maybe even jacks cos he wasnt really the big 3better pre, flush, AdTx.
anyway my equity vs that range was kinda slim...so i agree with the checking turn, but only folding if he bet (unless he made a funny extremely small bet). checkcalling a decent sized bet there leaves us again comitted.
He actually showed 44, but thats irrelevant.

[Snider]

still dont really know his name tho, he had a beard, was like in his mid 40s, handed out shirts to everyone, so yay free shirt
He seemed like a nice fellow

[KingBorgo]

Unless I can put him on the low set (which I do know he has), I probably smash it hard on the turn. There are too many hands he can have that give him odds to call 25 on the turn with 100 or so behind. Any Ad-board pair (AT, A6, A4 are all in his range). Similarly, I think AdK/Qx are also there. If you don't respect his play, I think you are narrowing his range too much (again, in practice of this hand, my analysis is wrong, but in theory, I would like my EV outcomes). So, really, if you have little respect for his play, I dont think you can put him on a hand that beats you (minus a goofy T6os or such). I like shipping it on the turn, for a +EV.

[Snider]

Originally Posted by KingBorgo

Unless I can put him on the low set (which I do know he has), I probably smash it hard on the turn. There are too many hands he can have that give him odds to call 25 on the turn with 100 or so behind. Any Ad-board pair (AT, A6, A4 are all in his range). Similarly, I think AdK/Qx are also there. If you don't respect his play, I think you are narrowing his range too much (again, in practice of this hand, my analysis is wrong, but in theory, I would like my EV outcomes). So, really, if you have little respect for his play, I dont think you can put him on a hand that beats you (minus a goofy T6os or such). I like shipping it on the turn, for a +EV.

with the little respect i meant the 'limping on the button if everyone else has folded kinda game