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Old 07-26-2008, 12:58 PM
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"You say that you might be off good playing Sitt & Go's with 5 times the buy-in. No offence but that's bull****. "

I do take offence. How can you think you can tell someone they are talking bull and try and add the caveat "no offence"? Doesn't work to be fair.
But if the other person is talking BS I can’t ignore it. But really, you shouldn't take things written on a pokerforum so personal. I mean come on, get over it.

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It all depends on how you play and how good you are. I'm not talking about just coming 1st. If I trawled through my records I'd be hard pushed to find 5 total losses in a row. I've def had 3 or 4 at worst.
It’s not all about how good you are. You might play perfect poker, only make +EV moves, and still lose. How come? Because of badbeats. Good runs and bad runs will come and go, but if you play above your limits a bad run might whipe your whole bankroll away in a heartbeat.
You say that you’ve only had a losing streak of 3 or 4 S&G’s at a worst. To be able to fully evaluate how much profit/loss you make on an average you deffinetly need a huge sample size. I’m not talking of 30 S&G’s at the same level, I’m talking about a few thousand to start with.
If you’ve played this many Sitt & Go’s at the same level and have only had a losing streak of 3 or 4 in a row, I must say you are running better than God.

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That's why I said x10 or maybe x5 if you are good. Sure you can be unlucky and have a crap streak, but to be fair, if you are in trouble in SNGs, at low levels like 5 and 10 bucks, all you have to do is go ultra tight and wait for the table to reduce to 3 players. Coming 3rd in SNGs (10 seat) is childs play if you can resist the temptation to gamble.
I shoot for 1st as 3rd is not worth the effort or time.
For starters, S&G’s are ALL about finishing ITM, where as MTT’s are all about making the final 3 (depending of course on the payout structure, but generally this is where the real money is).
As long as you in S&G’s get you’rer buy-in back and a little more you’re off good.

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For someone who is doing well at SNGs and had a bankroll of $50 - I'd say play 5$ games. till you get to $100, then go for $10 games. If you bust out, reload and lower your sights. Somtimes playing within very rigid bankrol "rules" can mess up your game. You end up playing below your level, getting bored, and losing because of your boredom and contempt of the competition. It happened to me.
This is called grinding. It's not about making a huge bankroll quickly, it's about playing hundreds of thousands of hands before even thinking about moving up levels. And eventhough you might afford to play at higher limits, you don't have to. Maybe your hourly winrate plummits when you move up the levels just because you can't beat it. In this case it's better to stay at your current level, build up your pokerknowledge, and when you feel like you're ready to move up you try again. And if you fail, you move down again. Remember, never play above your skillevel or your bankroll.

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I am aware that a lot of the bankrol guidelines help a lot of people, but at the same time, everyone is unique. Sometimes people need to follow rules to help them , sometimes they need to break out and do their own thing.
Apparently there's no convincing you, let me just say that you will be a losing player in the long run if you keep playing with these rules regarding your bankroll. The reason why winning players use bankroll rules is because it provides them stability. They can afford to take a badbeat or two, without it affecting their bankroll. They can go on coldstreaks without major swings in their bankroll. But, if you play without proper bankrollmanagment you will be living on the edge ALL the time, and one day you will fall.

Like I said, poker isn't about making big $ quickly. It's about slowly reaching your goals and learning at the same time.
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